Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:56:19 -0800
From: "JODY MCCAFFREE" <mccaffrees@verizon.net>  View Contact Details  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Jody's Response to LNG Demonstration
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Response to LNG Demonstration 12-6-06:

I attended the afternoon session of the LNG Demonstration sponsored by the International Port of Coos Bay and the Jordan Cove Energy Project last Wednesday 12/6/06.  Mr. Kirk Richardson who conducted the demonstration is a program manager for LNG/Marine Firefighting at the Texas Engineering Extension Service.  After questioning Mr. Richardson he readily admitted that he was in fact not a scientist or scientific expert on LNG and that he had not used or worked with any scientific models to conduct test of LNG spills over water.  He seemed unfamiliar with the Sandia Reports when I questioned him, which I found to be rather odd.  What Mr. Richardson is involved in is testing LNG in controlled testing basins and settings at his facility.  He stated that one of the main things his facility did was test different types of fire fighting foams and other things to see how they work with fighting LNG fires.  They also have a training program.  Mr. Richardson's conclusions about LNG are based on his experience with small scale LNG spills in controlled settings at his facility.   To understand Mr. Richardson's position on LNG one must also understand that the TEEX LNG program is heavily supported by one of the world’s largest energy companies, BP (British Petroleum) (http://www.teex.com/teex.cfm?pageid=ESTIprog&area=ESTI&templateid=1536 )  

 

The bottom line is that large scale (10,000 gallon) LNG spill test on water have in fact been done and are well documented.  If you would like to review some of these test from a scientist who is an LNG expert and get a scientific point of view please follow the instructions below and read through the reports I have listed.  There is plenty of scientific documentation as to why LNG Import Terminals should not be located close to populated areas.  I suggest you research and draw your own conclusions about LNG based on science and not from savvy salesmen or industry people who stand to profit from promoting their product or service..........

 

Jody McCaffree
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Instructions for Retrieving FERC Generated PDF Documents that Explain in Detail the Hazards of LNG and why LNG Import terminals should not be sited close to populated areas.    
 
1) Go to the FERC website - www.ferc.gov
2) Click on the "Documents and Filings" Tab at the top of the Screen
3) Click on "E-Library" at the left of the screen
4) Click on "General Search"
5) Under Date Range type in From; "10/19/2005" to "10/19/2005"
6) Go further down the screen to where there is a blank box next to the words Docket Number.  Type; "CP04-58"  in the blank box
7) Go down to the bottom of the screen and Click ;"Submit
 
The following Docket number 20051019-5037 should come up first.  Go to the right of the screen and click on the actual words "PDF" or "FERC Generated PDF"  (DO NOT CHECK THE BOX NEXT TO THEM).  Then click the word "open" when it ask if you want to open the file.  There are 5 PDF files and one FERC generated PDF file listed.  Each PDF file and what it contains is listed in order below.  To get to the bottom of this issue the 2nd and 4th listed PDF files are necessary reading by everyone. 
NOTE: These PDF files may take a few minutes to download.
 
Submittal
20051019-5037
10/19/2005
10/19/2005
CP04-58-000

Request for Hearing of CPUC under CP04-58.
Availability: Public
 
PDF - Letter to Magalie Roman Salas from Sound Energy Solutions, Docket Nos CP04-58-000 et al.  Motion of the Public Utilities Commission of the State of California to Supplement the Record and for a Hearing.
PDF - Exhibit PUC - 1 Redacted Prepared Direct Testimony of Dr. Jerry Havens 
PDF - Exhibit PUC - 2  Resume --- Dr. Jerry Havens
PDF - Exhibit PUC - 3 An Assessment of the Potential Hazards to the Public Associated with Siting an LNG Import Terminal in the Port of Long Beach - Prepared by Dr. Jerry Havens
PDF - Exhibit PUC - 4 - E-mail by the Mitsubishi Corporation Company to Professor Havens requesting his expertise.
FERC Generated PDF - Complete Report and Exhibits - Sound Energy Solutions - Motion of the Public Utilities Commission of the State of California to Supplement the Record and for a Hearing - Docket Nos CP04-58-000, et al. along with PUC Exhibits 1,2,3, & 4.